Browns Pro Bowl LB Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah out for the season with his neck injury and ‘I don’t know what’s next’


CLEVELAND, Ohio — The writing has been on the wall for a long time that Browns Pro Bowl linebacker Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah might not make it back this season from his scary neck injury, and the Browns confirmed it on Monday.

They’re placing Owusu-Koramoah on the Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform list, and he’ll be lost for the season.

Owusu-Koramoah suffered the injury in a violent collision with Ravens running back Derrick Henry on Oct. 27. He was immobilized on a board, carted off, and taken to University Hospitals for overnight observation.

Fortunately for Owusu-Koramoah and the Browns, he had feeling in all of his extremities when he was transported via ambulance to the hospital. But the injury hasn’t responded well enough to treatment for Owusu-Koramoah to be ready to play this season.

The Browns are making no predictions on if he’ll be back after this year.

“Jeremiah’s health is of the utmost importance to us and although he has made progress towards recovery, we’ve made the decision to place him on Reserve/PUP, which means he will not play football during the 2025 season,” Browns GM Andrew Berry said in a statement. “Jeremiah has the full support of our team, and we expect him to continue to be a part of the organization even though he will not return to the field this year. We will not make any predictions on Jeremiah’s football future at this time, but we do note that he’s in good spirits and will continue to take the advice of the world-class medical experts who will continue to guide his progress and recovery.”

Owusu-Koramoah acknowledged that he doesn’t know what the future holds.

“To the Cleveland Browns fanbase and my supporters worldwide—thank you for your patience in my silence.

“From day one, you embraced me as more than a player, but also as a brother and young man with purpose.

“I’m grateful to the Browns organization for their full support, and to the world-class doctors guiding me through recovery.

“While I won’t suit up this season, I’m focused on what I can control—my healing, my mindset, and my faith. The body may rest, but the calling never sleeps.

“I’ve given my heart to this game. I don’t know what’s next, but I’ll continue trusting my medical team, serving the community, and backing my brothers on the field.

“Love always,

JOK”

This story will be updated.



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Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah out 2025 Browns season due to neck injury


The Browns made official what had been speculated for some time: Linebacker Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah will not play in the 2025 season.

Officially, the Browns announced that they are placing Owusu-Koramoah on the reserve/physically unable to perform list because of a neck injury he sustained Oct. 27, 2024, against the Baltimore Ravens. They do not plan to take him off the list for the duration of the season.

“Jeremiah’s health is of the utmost importance to us and although he has made progress towards recovery, we’ve made the decision to place him on Reserve/PUP, which means he will not play football during the 2025 season,” general manager Andrew Berry said in a statement. “Jeremiah has the full support of our team, and we expect him to continue to be a part of the organization even though he will not return to the field this year. We will not make any predictions on Jeremiah’s football future at this time, but we do note that he’s in good spirits and will continue to take the advice of the world-class medical experts who will continue to guide his progress and recovery.”

The 2021 second-round pick out of the University of Notre Dame also released a statement addressed to Browns fans. It said:

“To the Cleveland Browns fanbase and my supporters worldwide—thank you for your patience in my silence.

From day one, you embraced me as more than a player, but also as a brother and young man with purpose. I’m grateful to the Browns organization for their full support, and to the world-class doctors guiding me through recovery. While I won’t suit up this season, I’m focused on what I can control—my healing, my mindset, and my faith. The body may rest, but the calling never sleeps. I’ve given my heart to this game. I don’t know what’s next, but I’ll continue trusting my medical team, serving the community, and backing my brothers on the field.

Love always,

JOK”

Browns have been very protective of Owusu-Koramoah’s status since he suffered the neck injury in the third quarter of a Week 8 win over the Baltimore Ravens. He sustained the injury when he went in to make a tackle on running back Derrick Henry.

The Browns linebacker spent the night at University Hospitals Cleveland Medical Center for observation. He was released the next day, and was at the team facility off and on for the rest of the season.

Berry had been asked twice between late March and late-April about Owusu-Koramoah’s status for the season, once in a small-group setting at the NFL owners meetings in late March and one at his pre-draft news conference on April 17. Both times, he refused to set an exact timeline for Owusu-Koramoah’s return.

“Yeah, so he is progressing, which is a positive,” Berry said at the owners meetings in late March. “I’ll be honest, it is still a little bit nebulous in terms of what that timeframe looks like. So we really are trying to deal with it week to week and month to month.”

Owusu-Koramoah has been present in Berea for the Browns’ offseason workout program. The team’s social media account even posted a video of him arriving for the first day in April.

The Browns selected UCLA linebacker Carson Schwesinger with the first pick of the second round (No. 33) of April’s draft. The move seemed like a signal that Owusu-Koramoah’s status for at least 2025 was in question, if not his career.

Berry, though, denied the two were related. However, he also seemed to catch himself in talking about Owusu-Koramoah in the past tense while describing why the team jumped at drafting an off-ball linebacker so high when it’s not always a position of need.

“For us to maybe go outside of the norm, we have to project them to be able to do something special or well above average in the passing game,” Berry said on April 25. “And for Jeremiah, that was really his ability as a blitzer. Like, he was a great run defender because he can make plays behind the line of scrimmage and everything, but he was really special — or is really special, I should say — as a blitzer.”

Owusu-Koramoah had not been seen or heard from by media covering the team since the injury occurred before the team-issued video of him walking into the facility. That, coupled with various answers given by his teammates and coaches last season, only added to the concern for his long-term well-being.

Browns linebacker coach Jason Tarver gave the most in-depth update when he spoke before a Week 17 loss to the Miami Dolphins.

“We’re all just rooting for him to be able to figure out everything that it needs to be figured out with, like you said, with his travel schedule to see different doctors and things, just making sure he’s good,” Tarver said on Dec. 27. “But good spirits, not hurting. All that’s good.”

Owusu-Koramoah signed a three-year, $39 million extension with the Browns on Aug. 14, 2024. At the time of the injury, he was in the midst of arguably his best season.

Owusu-Koramoah was leading the team in combined tackles (60), solo stops (38), assisted tackles (22), interceptions (one) and tackles for loss (10) at the time of the injury. He was also in the middle of a strong game before getting injured, with seven total tackles, a sack, three tackles for loss and two quarterback hits.

That had come on the heels of a Pro Bowl season in 2023 when he played 16 out of 17 regular-season games, with the only one missed being the season finale at Cincinnati when coach Kevin Stefanski held him and most of the other starters out in advance of the playoffs. He finished with 20 tackles for loss, 3.5 sacks, two interceptions, a forced fumble and 101 combined tackles.

Owusu-Koramoah has appeared in 49 career games over four seasons. He’s recorded 302 tackles, eight sacks, three interceptions, 17 passes defensed, six forced fumbles and 40 tackles for loss.

This story has been updated with new information.

Chris Easterling can be reached at ceasterling@thebeaconjournal.com. Read more about the Browns at www.beaconjournal.com/sports/browns. Follow him on X at @ceasterlingABJ



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Mayer Brown partners named to Billboard’s “Top Music Lawyers” list | News


Mayer Brown Intellectual Property partners Paul Fakler and Jacob Ebin have been named 2025 “Top Music Lawyers” by Billboard. The exclusive list, featured in the music industry’s leading trade publication, highlights the top lawyers in areas such as talent deals, publishing, streaming, and litigation

For the third consecutive year, Paul has been recognized for his work on high-profile music industry matters. He has played a pivotal role in representing Pandora in multiple prominent copyright infringement cases, including leading a Mayer Brown team defending Pandora in a groundbreaking series of lawsuits filed by comedians and their estates relating to the licensing of spoken-word comedy recordings. Paul’s experience also extends to a broad range of intellectual property matters, including defending major tech companies such as Google in copyright litigation, where he successfully navigated complex claims related to video game distribution and user-generated content, and representing music licensees in royalty rate-setting litigation before the Copyright Royalty Board and ASCAP and BMI rate courts.

Jacob is a leading lawyer specializing in copyright, antitrust, and complex commercial litigation, with a focus on media companies. He works closely with clients such as SiriusXM and Pandora Media, advising on musical works and sound recording licensing requirements. Jacob’s experience also extends to representing both traditional and new media companies in royalty rate-setting disputes, copyright infringement matters, and antitrust litigation. Additionally, Jacob advises the Television Music License Committee—an organization that represents the interests of approximately 1,200 commercial local television stations in music licensing matters—guiding negotiations and, if necessary, rate-setting litigation against performing rights organizations.

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Red Dead Redemption 2’s biggest secret stuns fans: ‘this game can’t stop surprising me’ – News


Even all these years later, Red Dead Redemption 2 fans are still discovering secrets and details hidden inside the expansive open world game.

Rockstar Games is a powerhouse for hiding details within its games. Games like GTA 5 and Red Dead Redemption 2 simply have loads of secrets within them that most players won’t find easily.

For Red Dead in particular, there are plenty of facts and features about the game that you wouldn’t normally happen across without knowing.

One particular detail from the game has eluded players for all these years, to the point where it stunned fans who recently discovered it.

In a thread titled “What’s your favorite hidden detail in RDR2?” on Reddit, the top comment posted: “Vomit changes colour depending what food you eat beforehand. Just like in real life.”

Sure enough, it’s true.

“If you eat tinned sweetcorn before making yourself puke with burdock, the puke will have yellow through it. If you eat tinned strawberries first it’ll have red through it,” the commenter continued.

“You can even make combos of colours by eating two different coloured things before puking if I recall correctly.”

Naturally, this revelation has astounded fans who didn’t know about this. Considering it’s such a minute, specific detail, we wouldn’t blame anyone for not realising.

“Bro the game can’t stop surprising me more every day,” wrote a comment underneath.

Honestly, we’re feeling the same way.

The whole thread is full of interesting facts about Red Dead Redemption 2, so it’s worth having a look through if you’re interested. Here’s some of my favourites.

“Arthur’s stink lines get more visible with tracker-vision if he hasn’t taken a bath for a while,” wrote user Nonadventures.

“I love that the natural world just happens,” wrote user 5PeeBeejay5. “First noticed when I was lining up a 3-star rabbit in my varmint scope and just before I shot him, an eagle swooped in and grabbed him.”

“If you kill an NPC in the woods and hide, you can see other NPCs pass the body, make a remark of disgust, and continue on, but eventually an NPC will remark that he must get the sheriff,” commenter MrBigTomato wrote.

“If you follow from a distance, you can actually see him go to the nearest sheriff and tell him about the body. The sheriff and one of his deputies will go to the body, put it on a horse, and take it back to town. They dump it behind the sheriff’s office.”

All this is to say that Red Dead Redemption 2 is the game that keeps on giving, and there are likely still many different secrets that players have not yet uncovered.

Here’s hoping Rockstar continues with the same attention to detail in the upcoming GTA 6.



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I’m a funeral director and I’ve been tapped on the shoulder by ghosts


Funeral director Jacob Walsh, who is based in Goole, East Riding of Yorkshire, has been sharing his experiences with the paranormal at his workplace on social media

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A funeral director from Goole, East Riding of Yorkshire, has shared his eerie experiences with the paranormal at work.

Jacob Walsh, known as the Yorkshire Funeral Director on social media, took to TikTok to discuss his encounters with the supernatural.

“Ghosts – have I seen them? Have I experienced them?” he pondered in a video. “I’ve felt a presence – usually in the mortuary, which is completely understandable as it’s where people in my care are resting.”

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Jacob confessed that initially, he attributed these chilling experiences to fatigue from working late hours. However, as “more and more things have happened” he began to reconsider.

“I have definitely felt people tapping me on the back,” he admitted. “Or just strange things that I just can’t put my finger on.

“But, as I’ve always said – don’t worry about the dead – it’s the living that will hurt you.”

But why would a spirit tap him on the shoulder?, reports the Mirror.

Jacob explained his theory: “I think it must mean it’s a reassurance that I’m doing right by them and that’s all that matters.

“We always talk to the people in my care – we wish them ‘good morning’ and every night I say ‘goodnight’ to them.”

He added that even when he’s “doing personal care”, such as shaving deceased gentlemen, he communicates what he’s doing out of respect.

Jacob reflected: “So if they are watching over us, that’s fine – we just don’t know what’s in the afterlife and I’m not here to tell you what I think there is or isn’t.”

In a written reply, another funeral director shared: “I have heard footsteps in our mortuary early hours of the morning.”

Meanwhile, a colleague added: “Having worked alone in different branches of our funeral homes I have definitely heard walking upstairs when I’m on my own! Never been scared though.”

A bereaved individual recounted: “My dad passed last Saturday and I’ve come to my mum’s house as she needed me and my sister. I could feel my dad’s presence, this is my first experience with it. He died suddenly so it’s a shock.”

Another TikTok user described an eerie incident: “My mum blew a lightbulb in the funeral parlour and when the funeral director got up to change it, it came back on and she said that’s strange. But l said my mum was a medium and has sent me messages.”

Numerous people commended Jacob for his respectful approach to his work, with one person commenting: “You are an amazing man with so much empathy. That’s why they say thank you by tapping you.”



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Braves Claim Ian Anderson – MLB Trade Rumors


The Braves and Angels announced this afternoon that Atlanta has claimed right-hander Ian Anderson off waivers from Los Angeles after he was designated for assignment by the latter club earlier in the week. This morning’s DFA of Jesse Chavez cleared a 40-man roster spot, so no corresponding move was necessary to complete the transaction.

Anderson, 27 next week, returns to Atlanta after spending just a month away from the organization. Drafted by the Braves third overall in the 2016 draft, Anderson made his MLB debut during the shortened 2020 season and made a huge impression over his first two seasons. in 30 starts between those two years, Anderson tallied 160 2/3 innings of work, pitched to a 3.25 ERA with a 3.80 FIP, and struck out 24.5% of opponents. He was also a key factor in both the club’s trip to the NLCS in 2020 and their World Series championship run the following year, giving him a tidy 1.26 ERA and 27.6% strikeout rate for his career in the postseason.

While the righty entered his age-24 season as a front-end starter for Atlanta and a beloved postseason hero, Anderson’s 2022 campaign did not go as planned. He struggled badly through 22 starts, posting a lackluster 5.00 ERA despite a decent 4.25 FIP in 111 2/3 frames. The righty was sidelined in August of that year and then went under the knife for Tommy John surgery in early 2023 before making an appearance. He missed all of that year while rehabbing, and made 15 starts at the minor league level last year, though he didn’t come back up to the majors despite his solid 3.44 ERA in 68 innings of work.

With Anderson out of options entering 2025, Max Fried and Charlie Morton having departed the club via free agency, and Spencer Strider ticketed to begin the season on the injured list, many penciled Anderson in for a starting job with Atlanta entering this season. Unfortunately for the righty, he looked wild in camp with a 24% walk rate and was designated for assignment ahead of Opening Day. He was then swapped to the Angels in exchange for Jose Suarez and headed to Anaheim for his first big league appearance in two and a half years. His brief stay in California did not go well, as Anderson struggled to a 11.57 ERA across seven appearances before being DFA’d again. Now back in Atlanta, he appears ticketed for a bullpen role once he rejoins the club in Colorado tomorrow. Righty Davis Daniel replaced Jesse Chavez in the bullpen as the primary long relief option earlier this morning, though it seems as though his stay with the Braves may be short now that Anderson is back in the fold.



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Dead & Company Debut “Tangled Up In Blue” Cover To Wrap Weekend Four At Sphere [Videos]


Dead & Company closed another weekend at Sphere on Saturday with the band’s first-ever take on Bob Dylan classic “Tangled Up in Blue”. The cover opened the Grateful Dead offshoot’s 12th of 18 shows in Las Vegas, finishing their fourth weekend run of the 2025 Dead Forever residency.

Bob Weir handled lead vocals on the Jerry Garcia Band-favored cover off Dylan’s 1975 Blood on the Tracks. In typical Bobby style, the Grateful Dead’s elder statesman delivered the song in a very conversational style, as if he were telling you a story that just so happened to rhyme. Jerry Garcia ringer John Mayer threw in a tasteful solo or two, but the lyrics were the focus of this latest addition to the Dead & Company songbook.

“Tangled Up in Blue” marks the fourth Dead & Company debut of this year’s Sphere residency. On March 20th, the Grateful Dead offshoot featuring Weir, Mayer, Mickey HartJeff ChimentiOteil Burbridge, and Jay Lane opened their second-annual stay at the groundbreaking Sin City spectacle with their first cover of The Spencer Davis Group‘s “Gimme Some Lovin’”. The following week, the band honored late Grateful Dead bassist Phil Lesh with the debut of The Band guitarist/lyricist Robbie Robertson‘s “Broken Arrow“—a cover Lesh adopted with the Dead in the mid-’90s. Then last week, Dead & Co added Jimmy Cliff reggae classic “The Harder They Come” to the catalog, featuring Oteil Burbridge on vocals.

Watch Dead & Company debut Bob Dylan’s “Tangled Up in Blue” and some other fan-shot videos from Saturday at Sphere. The band returns to Las Vegas on Friday, May 9th to kick off another three-night weekend run. Find tickets and a full list of dates here.

Dead & Company — “Tangled Up In Blue” (Bob Dylan) — 4/26/25

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Dead & Company — “The Wheel” — 4/26/25

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Dead & Company — “Terrapin Station” — 4/26/25

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Setlist: Dead & Company | Sphere | Las Vegas, NV | 4/26/25

Set One: Tangled Up in Blue (Bob Dylan) [1], Shakedown Street, Scarlet Begonias > Fire on the Mountain, The Wheel, One More Saturday Night
Set Two: Here Comes Sunshine, Estimated Prophet, Eyes of the World, Terrapin Station, Drums > Space, Looks Like Rain, Cold Rain and Snow (Traditional), Knockin’ on Heaven’s Door (Bob Dylan), Not Fade Away (The Crickets)

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He secretly worked on Red Dead Redemption 2 — even his friends thought he was unemployed


Imagine working on one of the most highly anticipated video games of all time, yet keeping the secret so well that even your closest friends believe you’re unemployed. This is the story of Roger Clark, the actor who brought Arthur Morgan to life in Red Dead Redemption 2—a game that took five years to produce and remains one of the most celebrated titles in gaming history.

The Secret of a Lifelong Dream

Clark’s journey into the world of video games was a secretive one. For years, while the game was in production, his friends and family had no idea he was working on one of the biggest projects in the gaming world. At the time, Red Dead Redemption 2 was being developed by Rockstar Games, a company known for keeping tight-lipped about its projects. Even though Clark was deeply involved in the development of the game, he couldn’t tell anyone—at least not until it was officially announced.

“I was working on a game, but I couldn’t talk about it,” he explains. “During those years, friends would ask me what I was up to, and I’d have to say nothing. It made things awkward. They thought I was unemployed or wasn’t serious about my career.” In fact, he recalls that many of them had started to doubt whether he was telling the truth. One conversation even went like this: “You know, Roger, it’s okay if you can’t find work. You don’t have to make up stories about it.” To which Clark responded, “No, I’m serious! I’m working on a video game!”

The Role That Changed Everything

For Clark, working on Red Dead Redemption 2 was more than just a job—it was a dream come true. The game, set in the unforgiving wilderness of the American West, follows Arthur Morgan and his outlaw gang as they try to outrun federal agents and bounty hunters. Clark’s portrayal of the character added depth and nuance to the story, helping make it one of the most emotional and unforgettable experiences in gaming history.

When the game was finally released in October 2018, it received widespread acclaim. Critics praised its storytelling, characters, and vast open world, and it quickly became one of the highest-rated video games of all time. Five years after its release, Red Dead Redemption 2 still boasts impressive numbers, with more than 100,000 concurrent players on Steam, proving its lasting impact.

A Game that Defined an Era

It’s not just the players who were hooked. Red Dead Redemption 2 captured the hearts of gamers around the world and raised the bar for what a video game can achieve. The emotional weight of the narrative, combined with the stunning visuals and meticulous attention to detail, made it a standout title. For Clark, it was an honor to be part of a project that would go on to define a generation of gaming. “It wasn’t just work; it was creating something that would change how people viewed video games,” Clark reflects.

For him, Red Dead Redemption 2 wasn’t just a job—it was the culmination of years of hard work, dedication, and a little bit of patience. A project that would not only make waves in the gaming industry but also change the way we think about storytelling and character development in video games.

So, while his friends may have been skeptical about his “unemployed” status, it turns out Clark was doing something much bigger than they could have imagined. And for those who’ve experienced the epic journey of Arthur Morgan, it’s clear that the wait—and the secrecy—was all worth it.

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49ers draft pick Jordan James receives Frank Gore stamp of approval – NBC Sports Bay Area & California


SANTA CLARA — With the No. 147 pick in the 2025 NFL Draft, the 49ers selected a running back who had Frank Gore’s blessing. 

Per a social media post from CEO and Owner Jed York, Oregon’s Jordan James received Gore’s approval.

“That means a lot,” James said via video. “Just the caliber of player he was. That’s a Hall of Fame running back right there and just to get a compliment from him on my game, that means a lot. He is actually good friends with my old running back coach. So, he knows about me. He kept in touch with me, things like that.”

Ohio State University running backs coach Carlos Locklyn tipped off the 49ers alum about the prospect, who also had quite a bit of contact with 49ers running backs coach Bobby Turner.

“Just be yourself,” James recalled of Turner’s advice. “He said it a lot on Zoom, just be myself. There’s no right or wrong answers to any questions that he was asking me, just trying to see the type of person I was.”

The 49ers have a history of developing running backs into successful ball carriers, and James might already be a step ahead. The former Duck already has a history of being able to get into the end zone with 31 career rushing touchdowns while at Oregon, tying him for the fifth most in school history.

James believes he will be able to assimilate quickly into the San Francisco system while learning from Turner, as well as one of the best in the game in Christian McCaffrey.

“He’s one of the great running backs right now,” James said. “He’s one of the best in the league right now. It’s honestly going to be an honor to go in and learn from him, learn from a great running back like that.

“I think they have a great outside zone run scheme that I’m pretty good at. I did a lot at Oregon, so I think I’ll fit pretty well into their scheme and into their offense in general.”

James will get reps behind McCaffrey and Isaac Guerendo, who was drafted in the fourth round of the 2024 NFL Draft.

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How Joe Goldberg Goes to Prison, Marienne’s Return


SPOILER ALERT: This story contains spoilers for the series finale of “You,” now streaming on Netflix.

Joe Goldberg is finally in a cage for good, and not the one of his own making. In the series finale of Netflix’s stalker-rom-com-thriller “You,” Joe, Penn Badgley‘s charismatic serial killer, gets his long-overdue comeuppance at the hands of his former victims, who join forces to put him behind bars once and for all.

When we pick up with Joe at the beginning of Season 5, he’s happily married to the uber-rich Kate Lockwood (Charlotte Ritchie), who’s used her family’s sizable resources to snatch Joe’s son Henry (Frankie DeMaio) from the adopted fathers he was dumped with at the end of Season 3 after Joe flees Northern California, having murdered Henry’s (also murderous) mother, Love Quinn (Victoria Pedretti). Now that Joe has returned to New York City a free man, he wants to play house with Kate and Henry.

Joe putters along trying (yet again) to enjoy married life, using a new vampire novel he’s writing as an outlet to excise his violent impulses. But just as it seems like he’s put his old ways in the rearview mirror, Joe’s world is upended as he meets Bronte (Madeline Brewer) a beautiful young woman attempting to break into his bookstore. Though something about her seems too good to be true, Joe begins an affair with Bronte, only to find out that his instincts were right — she’s a catfish named Louise, who created the “Bronte” identity to attempt to find out what really happened to her friend and mentor, Guinevere Beck (Elizabeth Lail).

Though Louise/Bronte and her friends successfully catch Joe on camera killing Clayton Angevine (Tom Francis) — the son of Dr. Nicky (John Stamos) from Season 1 — Bronte has fallen, unfortunately, in love with Joe, and ends up testifying in his defense, getting him freed. With Bronte seemingly unable to take Joe down herself, Kate then takes matters into her own hands, freeing Joe’s brilliant former student Nadia (Amy-Leigh Hickman) from prison and recruiting his ex-girlfriend-turned-victim Marienne (Tati Gabrielle) to help her kill Joe.

Together, Nadia, Kate and Marienne successfully trap Joe in his own cage under the bookstore, and are able to record confessions exonerating Nadia and implicating him in Love’s murder. Joe escapes the cage and plans to run away with Bronte and Henry (if he can pry him out of Kate’s custody), but unbeknownst to Joe, Nadia, Kate and Marienne were able to get through to Louise and convince her to turn on him.

As Louise and Joe drive off to begin their new life together, they stop to stay the night at a secluded cabin. Just before they have sex, Louise comes clean to Joe, explaining how much Beck meant to her as a friend and mentor, and forcing him (at gunpoint) to redact his writing from Beck’s book, “The Dark Face of Love.” Joe redacts himself from the book, but lunges for the gun and the encounter turns violent.

Joe, naked and bloody, chases a terrified Louise into the woods, where the two face off one last time. Louise manages to call the cops in the scuffle, and as Joe hears sirens blaring, he begs Louise to shoot him. She refuses and he rushes her, so she fires — shooting his genitals off just as the police arrive. Dick-less and in handcuffs, Joe is arrested and charged with life in prison.

The “You” series finale ends with Joe alone in his cell reading fan letters, and reading Norman Mailer’s “The Executioner’s Song.” “Why am I in a cage when these crazies write all these depraved things they want me to do to them?” Joe wonders, having already reached his response. “Maybe the problem isn’t me. Maybe it’s You.”

And so ends the Netflix hit, which was created by Sera Gamble and Greg Berlanti, and first premiered on Lifetime in 2018 — only to be rescued post-cancellation by the streamer. Over the course of five seasons, “You” was a satire of romantic fiction, an indictment of toxic masculinity and, above all a character study of the character of Badgley’s Joe Goldberg, whose charms could never hide his psychosis. Viewers who fell for Joe along the way found that impulse questioned, if not spoofed, many times throughout the show’s run, but definitively so in Joe’s final voiceover.

Ahead of the “You” series finale, Variety spoke with co-showrunners Justin Lo and Michael Foley about why Beck is so important to Season 5, the inspiration behind Joe’s literary tastes and how the writers’ room found the right ending for a killer we love to hate.

Was prison the plan for Joe all along?

Michael Foley: We had the general plan in terms of the fact that Joe wasn’t going to get away with things, and that he’d have his comeuppance. The actual capture versus death and whatnot, that was a decision that went down to the wire. The question we asked for the final season was: “What does Joe deserve?” He deserves to not get away with what he’s done. We don’t want to redeem him. We want him to face those whose lives he’s ruined. But most of all, we wanted to have him face himself.

Sera, Greg and all of us writers, our plan was to have Joe so horrific that we wake everyone up to what we’ve been co-signing and rooting for all this time. There was no way he was going to get away with it. He was not going to ride off into the sunset, ever.

Louise asks Joe what ending he deserves. What conversations did the writers have about the ending Joe deserves?

Justin Lo: Neil Reynolds, one of our writers, proposed that we set aside two days, take the weekend, and each person think about what they thought Joe deserved. When we came in on Monday morning, we all would sit and listen to each person, and no one was allowed to interrupt each other or comment on what we had just heard, we all just said our piece.

That night, we formulated our opinions, and the next day, we came in and were able to talk about everything. It was very emotional. There were tears. People have such strong feelings about it. People were talking about their personal experiences, and it did go down to the wire, but from that day, we had this rich stew of ideas we could take from. That was the most important part of our process.

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Given that he’s previously manipulated the system — he even boasts about it to Louise in the finale — how is prison a satisfying ending for Joe?

Foley: In those conversations we had, we decided that death was too easy, that we needed Joe in a cage. Not just for the image of it, the strong visual, but also we wanted him to not know the feeling of a lover’s touch. Beyond not having his freedom, it would be more punishing for him to end the series alone. 

In prison, we see Joe reading letters from fans and turning his nose up at them. Can you talk about the fan letters and why he was so dismissive of them?

Foley: That’s part of Joe’s self-delusion, that people would root for him. He’s been exposed for what he is, but there are still people out there writing them letters. He has contempt for them because he thinks he’s above that. It’s a critique of the viewer, to some degree, but it’s more to point to the fact that in the end, Joe can’t be held accountable. The problem is always somebody else and not him.

There was a pitch early on that he would become obsessed with one of those people who’d written him a letter, but we wanted to broaden the ending and have him speaking to us the audience, instead of one person who wrote him.

What did you want to explore by putting Joe in a position of wealth and power in Season 5?

Lo: Joe has always had a bit of hypocrisy in him. Since the beginning of the series, he’s railed against wealth and privilege, but he himself is a white man and he enjoys that privilege. In the fifth season, one of the things we wanted to do was give him money and see how that would impact him. And he uses his privilege in a really destructive way. 

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A number of Joe’s previous victims, including Nadia and Marienne, return for Season 5. Why did you want to revisit their stories?

Lo: We really wanted to let these women, these victims of Joe, have a chance to have their voices heard. For them to be able to stand outside a cage with Joe in it, and tell him what he did to them and to see if he would take any accountability for it. We also just love these characters. Nadia and Marienne, we wanted to give them the opportunity to close their stories in a satisfying way.

We also revisit Beck in the finale. Why was it important to center her in Season 5?

Foley: Because we asked the most of the audience when Joe kills Beck, and we asked everybody to return for Season 2. Nothing against Peach or Benji, but ultimately, that was the original sin that we, the audience, became complicit in by sticking with the show and rooting for Joe. 

It felt right to us that if he’s back in New York, we would come full circle, going back to that original sin of not just killing Beck, but stealing her voice. Then we got into the idea of using “The Dark Face of Love,” of having Louise bring her voice back by having him redact what he had done to the book.

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Louise has another great moment in the finale, with Joe at gunpoint in the yard. What went into writing her monologue?

Foley: Louise was reading Joe for exactly what he is. He considers himself a feminist when he’s the opposite, because he takes power away from women. He tries to tell them what they can be. He tries to be the architect of their identity, and that’s disgusting.

How much of “The Dark Face of Love,” Beck’s book, is actually written?

Foley: It’s one of those things that you never want to show the audience, so there was just enough for the camera. In the series finale, as Joe is redacting, if you got your hands on the book, you may see some Latin in there, gibberish that the props people start with, repeated pages and whatnot. We worked very closely with our on-set props person when Joe was redacting to make sure that as he turns pages, he was going to land on ones he could redact if the camera was over his shoulder.

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Throughout Season 5, we see Joe working on a vampire novel. When did he get into fantasy?

Lo: Joe’s turn into genre writing, he’s doing it at the beginning of the when he’s having these fantasies about murder — writing about murder instead of doing it. He focuses on genre because that’s the most surface-y way to do it. We wanted to say at the beginning of the season that Joe is not a profound writer by any means. So that’s where he begins.

Then he meets Bronte, and Bronte is interested in dark, romantic literature and genre fiction. The genre fiction, the allusions to “Dracula,” we were able to lean into it and to fit the theme of Joe being a monster. In Episode 9, when he bites into his own arm, that image, it all just fit for us.

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What went into creating the sequence where Joe is naked, bloody, and chasing Louise through the pouring rain?

Foley: There was nothing Penn was hitting harder than the fact that he wanted Joe to be at his most horrific in the series finale. He was like, “I need people to see what they’ve been rooting for. Let’s make him as horrific and monstrous as possible.” Hence the lack of clothes that suggest civilization, hence the blood. 

We’ve historically shied away from directly showing his violence towards women, but in the bedroom and on the lawn, we have him very violent with Louise. It was him at his most horrific, pulling no punches, to splash cold water on all of us and say “He’s a fucking monster.”

“You” has a long-running relationship with pop music, and we hear “Guilty as Sin?” in Episode 10. Why was that the right Taylor Swift song for the finale?

Foley: It was less about the message and more about matching the moment. In the past, at the top of the Season 4 finale, we had “Anti-Hero,” which is a big cheeky wink at the audience. In terms of hitting the message of the series on the nose, it was more “Creep.” Even the cover we used, which was slightly atonal in the music and lyrics, matched the tone we wanted to leave the audience with. 

Cardi B pops up a few times during Season 5 via social media. How did her part in the series come together?

Foley: It really came about because on social media, they had recognized each other and that they were fans of one another’s work. When it came time to do Episode 7, and we thought the world would be “popping off” about Joe Goldberg, we thought “Oh, of course, Cardi B, we could have her pop off!” There was no friction at all, I’ll put it that way.

What will you miss most about working on “You?”

Foley: This is my 10th show, and I’ve never been with a show where the writers stay the same over the course the entire show. We’re a close group. Beyond the writers, who genuinely care for each other, Penn’s just brilliant. There’s no better No. 1 on the call sheet than Penn Badgley.

Lo: It was such a wonderful group of writers. It’s a very touchy-feely writers’ room. As dark as the show was, it was a room filled with love and kindness and really thoughtful writers, extending to the producers and actors and crew. Mike’s right, Penn is the best No. 1 you could ask for. So conscientious, socially responsible. This show also blends all of the things I love most about television: it’s smart, sexy, funny, scary and it’s rare that you work on a show that hits all those things in such a successful way.

This interview has been edited and condensed.



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